Is there no more converstaion about education or about the woes and benefits of being an EA resident/ student?
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. Ephesians 4:29
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 224 of 224Clayton's CLUB is not illegal - Get over it - every lawyer has done NOTHING to stop it. Supposedly you all have contacted the proper authorities about it and and what has come of it? NOTHING. MOVE ON. Hate him for something else
"Let freedom ring. And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring—when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children—black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics—will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: 'Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!'"
With all the crooked politicians we have do you really think they would know if a fraternity was illegal? Would they look the other way because they didn't want to rock the boat you bet they would. Clayton has tuned up his group so it isn't really now in the realm of being a fraternity but a group that picks its members and should not get public funds for it. Some years ago the Boy Scouts decided that they wouldn't allow boys that where gay in the group and when they did that they couldn't get public funds for their group. I'm not making in judgement of that that was their decision and chose not to get supported with public funds.
What money has the city given to that group?
You think the boy scouts don't get public funds. HA - you're a moron.
Look up how much they pay for the national jamboree - Oh, you won't but it is only $1 to rent the location which was a military base - Also, the military helped them set up all the tents and everything for the jamboree.
Did you see that the East Aurora Boys Basketball team lost to Metea Valley High School this past weekend. Metea doesn't even have seniors. Ha, I guess this team isn't all it's cracked up to be.
The Summit Bechtel Family National Scout Reserve
Main article: The Summit Bechtel Family National Scout Reserve
The BSA announced in June 2008 that locales interested in permanently hosting the National Jamboree should submit applications to BSA. Permanent Jamboree site considerations included 5,000 acres (20 km2) to be donated or leased for 100 years, water, natural beauty, transportation, ability to also host World Jamborees, and use as a BSA high adventure/training center in non-jamboree years.
Goshen Scout Reservation in Virginia was selected for the new site in February 2009,[12] [13] but was withdrawn due to significant restrictions on land utilization[14] and local community opposition.
The Summit Bechtel Family National Scout Reserve in the New River Gorge region was chosen as the new home of the national Scout jamboree in November 2009.[15] The purchase of the property was made possible by a $50 million gift from the S. D. Bechtel, Jr. Foundation.[16][17] Other donations, including a $25 million donation from The Suzanne and Walter Scott Foundation and a gift of an undisclosed amount from Mike and Gillian Goodrich, as well as other donations, have brought the total amount of contributions for The Summit to over $100 million in under one year.[18] A portion of the 10,000-acre (40 km2) property is a reclaimed mine site once known as Garden Grounds. It is located along the New River Gorge National River near Mount Hope, West Virginia and north of Beckley, West Virginia.[19]
Early announcements from The Summit team at the 2010 National Scout Jamboree, and subsequently on Facebook announced that Venturing would be a part of the Jamboree, not just as staff, but as participants.[20] This would mark the first appearance of Venturing at a jamboree, and the first attempt to expand the program to include the senior scouting program of the BSA since the attempted inclusion of Exploring in 1989.
Winkler v. Rumsfeld
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"Winkler v. Gates" redirects here. The appellate case was renamed Winkler v. Gates due to a change in officeholder of the Secretary of Defense during deliberation.
Winkler v. Rumsfeld was a case regarding the United States Armed Forces and their support of the Boy Scouts of America's National Scout jamborees.
Every four years, the Boy Scouts of America holds a National Scout jamboree, where for ten days, about 30,000 scouts camp out and participate in a wide variety of activities. Currently, the US Department of Defense is the official host of the jamboree. From 1981 until 2010, the jamboree was held at Fort A.P. Hill, a US Army base in Virginia. The US Government spends an average of $2 million a year towards hosting of the jamboree.
The Boy Scouts of America has always required all Scouts to agree to the Scout Oath which includes the phrase "To do my Duty to God". There have been several high profile cases in which atheists and agnostics were removed from the organization for failing to agree to the Scout Oath.
Based on this, Winkler and the other plaintiffs (aided by the American Civil Liberties Union) sued. They argued that the Department of Defense's use of taxpayer money to fund the jamborees of what they called a private religious organization violates the First Amendment, which prohibits Congress from establishing a religion.
In 2005, a U.S. District Court ruled that the DOD's spending on national Scout jamborees violates the Establishment Clause of the United States Constitution. The decision was subsequently reversed by the US Court of Appeals on April 4, 2007 in Winkler vs Gates (renamed due to a new Secretary of Defense), which ruled that the plaintiffs lacked legal standing as taxpayers to bring the suit in the first place. Therefore, the 2010 Jamboree at Fort A.P. Hill and future support by DOD of Jamborees will continue as before.[1]
The case arose out of Winkler v. Chicago School Reform Board of Trustees, in
Background information
The National Scout jamboree is a large gathering of Scouts held once every four years. Historically, jamborees were held in state and national parks like other groups' gatherings, but mutual concerns by BSA and the government over the environmental impact of 35,000 Scouts camping in heavily used public places led to a 1978 agreement to use infrequently used military facilities instead. The United States military uses the jamboree as a large scale training exercise for engineer, military police, and medical units. In addition, the military supports the jamboree through many different public relations and civilian support functions as well, as well as by teaching merit badges. While only registered Scouts and Scouters are allowed to camp at the jamboree, the exhibits and shows are open for the general public to visit and typically 300,000 persons visit a jamboree.
Since 1981, the U.S. Army has allowed BSA to use Fort A.P. Hill in Virginia as the home of the national Scout jamboree, as authorized by Congress in 1972 through 10 U.S.C. 2554. As part of the 1978 agreement, BSA paid for capital improvements at Fort A.P. Hill (water lines, road improvements, amphitheater, etc.) that are used by both the jamboree and unrelated military encampments. BSA uses the facility for four weeks once every four years and it is available to the military and other members of the public for the rest of the time. The U.S. military regards the national Scout jamboree as beneficial for public relations and recruitment, and is a unique training opportunity, particularly in testing operations needed to support large scale military encampments or refugee tent cities.
The U.S. military has supported all 16 national Scout jamborees since 1937. Most of the approximately $50 million dollar jamboree expense is paid for by BSA and its participants. About 1,500 troops and DOD contractors are involved during the four weeks of a national jamboree operation. About half of them are involved in military training operations and half are involved in military public relations activities oriented towards the participants and visitors. Total Defense Department funding for these training and public relations activities averages $8 million per jamboree. According to the government, "these funds were used to pay not only for services provided in support of the event itself, but also for the costs of transporting and billeting the population of soldiers brought to Fort A.P. Hill to perform services during the event."[2]
The BSA requires its members to promise to do their "duty to God", which excludes atheists from participating in jamborees as Scouts, but not as visitors. No Scout is required to participate in any religious ceremony at the Jamboree or elsewhere, but they have to repeat the Scout Oath.
This policy has caused controversy and the federal government has been sued by people who claim that direct support of the BSA (such as funding or sponsoring Scouting units) violates the separation of church and state.
A U.S. District Court Judge ruled in June 2005 that federal funding for the national Scout jamboree is unconstitutional because "the Boy Scouts are a religious organization, requiring Scouts to affirm a belief in God."[1] The U.S. Department of Justice appealed the ruling on behalf of the Secretary of Defense, arguing that the military’s support for the jamboree does not violate the separation of church and state on the grounds that BSA is not a religious organization, that the plaintiffs had no legal standing to bring the suit in the first place, and that visiting the Jamboree is open to the general public. (Summary) (DOJ Brief).
After the June, 2005 Federal District Court Judge's ruling, Congress enacted and the President signed The Support Our Scouts Act of 2005, on December 30, 2005, to indicate their desire for continued Defense Department support of the jamboree.
The US Court of Appeals determined in April 2007 in Winkler vs Gates that the plaintiffs had no legal standing to bring the suit in the first place, thus ending the suit and affirming that the military may assist future jamborees, including providing campsites at Fort A.P. Hill.[2]
Yup, so up until this year your tax dollars were supporting it. That's just one example. There are and will be more. All you really have to do is dive into the tax code, but I really don't feel like it.
You don't have to be interviewed to be a Boy Scout.
Metea Valley reschedule the game from 7pm to 2:00pm on Saturday. Rumor was they did not want East Aurora gangs at their school in the evening.
Oh god more walls of text. I don't think I care enough about the boy scouts to read this time.
The boy scouts use East High every fall for their training - Do you think the school gets paid for that - I doubt it.
I'm with you Rudy, why not just post the link to the info and if we care to read about the scouts, we'll have the link. Anyone can research a topic and find the info if they so chose.
Again if you don't want to read what is on the blog don't come to it. I don't mind reading things about what people post because most times it will give the proof or of what is posted or if it is just crap.
Most of the people that don't like it is the people that just want to make trouble. Did you notice no one was posting and then someone started reposting what was on openlineblog? Just making trouble and Ruby if you think it is boring or don't care about the Boy Scouts don't come on the blog I think someone was just trying to clear up about taxes being paid to the for stuff and not really about them.
Rudy just doesn't like the Boy Scouts since they kicked him out for being GAY.
I, as an EAHS Senior, am constantly disappointed every time I visit this blog. Not because I am surprised by what you say, but because you are all so misinformed. Most of you are blatantly lying while others are simply ignorant to the topic they comment on. For starters, D131 has to follow the law which is why we have the “silent reflection/prayer.” As a current student I can speak for many when I say most students don’t do “pray/reflect”, so it’s not really influencing or pushing a religion. Another concern of mine is the constant bashing of clergy members, wow, way to stereotype. Grow up. Also, BII2 is not associated with the school, so it’s not illegal. Just because Clayton has founded a group which is considered a fraternity doesn’t necessarily mean it is in conjunction with D131. It’s just another petty complaint by you ignorant fools. It is true the school is in need of repairs, so how about you attend a board meeting instead of complaining over a computer. Don’t just talk the talk, but walk the walk.
Actually, you need to read the law. Boys II Men does not have to be sponsored by the school district to be considered a high school fraternity. It only has to have public high school students in its membership to be a high school fraternity.
The fact that a public school employee is running the illegal fraternity only compounds the issue and when it was discovered that Clayton has used and is using district time resources to run this group, it becomes a scandal.
If you think you are disappointed now with this blog, just wait until you go out into the real world and try to get a job or get into college. See how many doors are slammed in your face when you tell them you are a product Aurora East District 131.
10:01 p.m., what you call the "constant bashing of clergy" is probably only one or two immature individuals who are trying to sabotage this blog. Over the years they've also tried: posting the same thing multiple times in succession, typing "Nobody Cares" after everyone else's posts, and of course those vulgar, obscene comments that seemed to appear whenever one particular topic was mentioned.
10:01 p.m., I know at least a dozen of Aurora's clergy personally, in my capacity as a church musician. Every single one has impressed me as being an outstanding ambassador for Jesus Christ. I'm sure there are a few "bad apples", but I haven't met any in my 25+ years living and working in Aurora!
I appreciate the fact that our clergy are willing to gather together and pray for our district. I'll be praying too--Lord knows we need it!
Wow, are you seriously telling me I won't get anywhere in life because I attended East Aurora. Well you’re sadly mistaken. Just because you live a sad life doesn’t mean I will, because I know that when I’m 35+ years old I won’t be bashing teenage dreams. Unlike you, I’ll be doing something great with my life.
Also, how do you know Clayton uses the schools resources? Did you see him? Yeah I didn’t think so; I would keep my mouth shut if I were you.
I moved to East Aurora in June. I was amazed at how petty this blog and its contributors are. What I read didn't remind me of the types of comments from people of my town. After some further reading I realized you people live in East Aurora, IL. I'm really glad after reading this blog that I live in East Aurora, NY
We're glad you live there instead of here, too!
:)
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