Tuesday, October 11, 2011

Continuing the money discussion

It seems like a lot of us like to discuss finances; there have been more than 200 postings on the previous thread in less than 3 weeks. So we'll refresh the topic, and continue the discussion!

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Anonymous said...

i wonder iF yoU hate all Curse words or just ones typed on a Keyboard.

Anonymous said...

"hate filled person"--

Okay, I admit it. I absolutely HATE when thousands of our hard-earned tax dollars are thrown away on outrageously expensive stipends for people who already are paid for the same work. I HATE that certain people in our district have the nerve to ask community members to donate above & beyond what they already give, so that ADMINISTRATORS can continue to misuse our money for their favorites.

If that makes me "hate filled", then so be it!!

Anonymous said...

Wrong

Anonymous said...

Okay, then--maybe I'm NOT hate-filled.

Depends on your definition, I suppose.

:)

Anonymous said...

They are not your tax dollars. YOU HAVE THE LOWEST TAXES IN THE STATE.

Here is a list of all the towns that pay for YOUR KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL because you are too CHEAP to do it yourself

Naperville
Oswego
North Aurora
Batavia
Big Rock
Springfield
Peoria
Chicago
Rockford
Dekalb
Lisle
Downers Grover
Champaign
Berwin
Essex
Montgomery
Yorkville
Plano
Brookfield
Hindsdale
Hanover Park
Liberityville
Palos Park
Sleepy Hollow

And those are just a few.

By the way, have you spoken at a board meeting about this topic?

Anonymous said...

So you haven't been to a board meeting?

Hmmm, I'm soooo surprised

Anonymous said...

So have you gone to a school board meeting to discuss your topic?

Anonymous said...

Wait, wait, wait

Have you gone to a board meeting to express your concerns?

Anonymous said...

Ohhhh, Administrator, looks like it's time for a new post.

I wonder what the topic will be.

I know what the topic will migrate to after about 3 posts.

What will it start out as?

Maybe it will be a "be safe" message about Halloween or another riveting discussion of money.

Maybe it will a ripped off article from the Beacon or a thought provoking message about helping our children.

Whatever it starts out as, it always goes back to the same thing.

Anonymous said...

What a minute this year we where the only district not to lay off anyone in fact they have hired quite a few new employees. Didn't the board boost that the referendum we had was better than the West Side and that is why we get our money from the State on time. I wonder if the State knew of some of the things this district spends their money on that would change. How about the parties at Gaslight Manor if they pay for the booze that is against State Law. How about all the money they spend on food the employees of this district eat a lot on our money what is the district's budget on that?

Anonymous said...

6:06 a.m., I remember a few years ago someone found out about the $11,000.00+ hotel bill the administration rang up. As I recall, it was first mentioned anonymously on either this or Openline blog. All of a sudden, the district was putting in place rules & guidelines limiting the amount of money that could be spent on travel expenses.

Sometimes an anonymous comment on a blog can bring a situation to the attention of the public. And next year at this time, don't be surprised if there's a big push by administration to pass a referendum (after all, they snuck one through on the last Presidential election ballot). So keep bringing out the examples of misuse of our money!

Anonymous said...

About speaking at a School Board meeting--

This reminds me of the Aesop's Fable about belling the cat. The mice (in this case, concerned community members) agreed that the cat (administration) was a problem and they needed a way to stop the bullying. One mouse came up with a terrific idea: put a bell around the cat's neck so they would know when the cat was approaching. The only problem was, no one was willing to risk their own neck to put the bell around the cat.

Maybe no one wants to risk their "neck" (harassment or unemployment of self or family member) by coming out of anonymous mode to confront the "cat". After all, this particular "cat" (administration) has a pretty nasty reputation.

Anonymous said...

The Illinois School Code has the limit about how much can be spent and a board can make stiffer ones but this board doesn't follow through and they aren't checking now. All those trips they take into Chicago each year and stay at a hotel for three nights and some of the administration take their other half and they stay at the hotel that other half is suppose to pay. Also most of the administration and board live close enough where they don't have to spend the night they benefit by staying to go around Chicago it has nothing to do with the district. So it is same ole' same ole' here they haven;t changed anything.

About being afraid to do anything that is a cop out Bob Green stood up and he won and if you just want to complain about the administration and not do anything because of what may happen to you are family members you are no better than them.

Anonymous said...

Since you bring up children's story, this blog actually reminds me of a different one.

The boy who cried wolf.
The boy (the people on this blog) continually yell lies and half-truths just for fun. But, when the wolf actually does show up, nobody believes you because everything you have posted before is total crap.

You can twist the blog to be as righteous as you want, but the truth is this blog is only as effective as the people running it, and those people are full of shit.

Anonymous said...

By the way where did the administrators go just lately? Someone said about 10 of them went on a trip somewhere.

What half truths are you talking about not the trips and the misuse of money because there is truth to that.

Anonymous said...

That's whats funny, you don't even know. Everything is take as fact even if it is the TOTAL fact. Most of what is said here has a ring of truth, but NOT THE WHOLE TRUTH, because you REFUESE to find out from the people who really know something.

Anonymous said...

Give one example where it isn't the whole truth.

Anonymous said...

You all discussing the band director stipend. YOU HAVE NO IDEA how many hours he is working on the musical, yet you assume he is making over $100 an hour.

No matter what you think, you don't have the WHOLE TRUTH.

But you won't like this example so I'll give you another example.

On October 15th Somebody posted that "Rumor is the football coach called it quits last game."

Not the truth either.

Having these two examples right in front of your face should shut you up, but they won't, they will only fuel the fire of your hatred for this district.

Anonymous said...

OK, here are some figures that you can check out for yourself. TheChampion.org (They receive their figures from the State Board of Education, who receives them from District 131, all public records)shows Brian Liska as a 5th year teacher with a bachelors degree who earned a total salary of $56,776 last year.

The district web site shows the teacher salary schedule. A 5th year teacher with a bachelors earns $41,032 in compensation for their teaching position.

This shows that Brian Liska receives differentials that totaled $15,744.

Yes, life in District 131 is grEAt when you are one of the administrators special employees.

Anonymous said...

10:06 a.m., it is NOT the "band director stipend" that is being questioned. That stipend is for around $10,000.00--and I'm sure that Mr. Liska (just as Mr. Kaisershot did before him) is earning every bit of that as he puts in time above-and-beyond his duties during the school day, throughout the school year. What is being questioned is the SEPARATE, ADDITIONAL stipend for pit director. The pit director stipend is $7,330.00 JUST FOR DIRECTING THE PIT FOR THE FALL MUSICAL.

Get it?? NO ONE is disputing the band director stipend; it's the pit director stipend that's being referred to.

And how do YOU do the math, that he's earning that additional $7,330.00? Seems to me that he'd have to be putting in more than 70 hours on JUST THE PIT, OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DAY he's already paid for to make it $100.00/hour.

As has been said many times before, the fault is with ADMINISTRATION for their extravagant spending on this. Those of us who work long hours for our paychecks and are grateful just to have a job are particularly bothered to see money wasted on administrators' favorites like this.

Anonymous said...

Clayton does not need a secretary. Here is a big waste of money. He just needs to do the job he is supposed to do and nothing else. How many jobs have been made up now to help out Clayton? Many. This is a big waste of monies. Johnson needs to go for all the favortism she shows to certain people.
How is that problem coming with the pool at EA?

Anonymous said...

This was on Aol News:
Florida Schools Early Lunch: Why Students Are Having Their Midday Meal At 9:30 A.M.

Who hasn't had their share of cold pizza for breakfast? But for high school students across Florida, their 9:30 a.m. meal is no makeshift breakfast from last night's leftovers -- it's lunch time.

At least 60 schools in Florida have received waivers from the Florida Department of Education to bypass a federal mandate requiring schools to serve lunch between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. -- so they can offer the midday meal as early as 8:30 to 9:30 a.m.

And the cafeteria doesn't serve breakfast food for "lunch" at the early hour -- offerings are the same as if students were eating in the middle of the day: burgers, fries, taco salads, barbecue subs, pepperoni and cheese sandwiches.

At one school, lunch starts at 9 a.m. on early-dismissal days and 9:30 a.m. on regular schedule days, the Orlando Sentinel reports.

The extreme lunch times are partly the result of strict schedules that schools follow, according to the Sentinel.

Schools say that the early lunch, the NBC TODAY show reports, is necessary because the new generation of students starts its day much earlier as classes start just after 7 a.m. and the state's high schools are serving breakfast shortly after 6 in the morning. Students are leaving for school as early as 5:30 a.m., Winter Park Ninth Grade Center Principal Dave Stanley told TODAY.

"Definitely all my friends are complaining about having to eat at breakfast time," Winter Park student Aiden Mullen told TODAY. "You know, it shouldn't be like that."

And other students simply don't eat breakfast since lunch is so early. So "lunch" for them, is actually breakfast.

But on the other end, middle schoolers in the state are dealing with the opposite issue: late lunch. Some middle school parents are worried because their children are hungry when lunch times are around 2 p.m., according to the Sentinel's School Zone blog.

Schools elsewhere are attempting different approaches to timing school meals -- and the results are telling. In California, schools have actually pushed back the breakfast hour to serve the first meal during class. More students are eating breakfast, and schools are saving money and minimizing waste. There's also potential for improved student performance.

This move by Florida schools could have also been a point of confusion with respect to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's plan, announced last month, to eliminate potatoes from school breakfasts and drastically reduce the amount of potatoes in school lunches. The initiative aims to reduce students' caloric and starchy intake. The Senate voted this month to block the proposal.


District 131 is serving middle schoolers their lunches starting at 9:45 and going as late as 1:30. I wonder if they are doing it legally? Do they have the federal waivers and even if they do, is it really in our childrens best interest?

Anonymous said...

District 131 is serving middle schoolers their lunches starting at 9:45 and going as late as 1:30. I wonder if they are doing it legally? Do they have the federal waivers and even if they do, is it really in our childrens best interest?

Anonymous said...

What you need to understand is most of us don't care about the pit director or the band stipend many teacher don't get anything for the extra time they work on classroom things they need to get done.

This district misuses money in other ways besides that. I say since you can't leave it alone they should give him more just for you nagging about it and not moving on.

Anonymous said...

Again YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW MANY HOURS OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DAY HE IS PUTTING IN.

Anonymous said...

By the way, I know which stipend you are talking about moron. You are such a god damn moron. You don't have a CLUE HOW MANY HOURS he is working outside the school day. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE. You don't know, you don't know. Therefore you can't do ANY MATH to figure out how much he is making per hour, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF HOURS.

DO YOU GET IT? DO YOU? NO YOU DON'T YOU IDIOT

Anonymous said...

Who are you referring to about how much time he is putting in? I believe many are putting in extra time.

Anonymous said...

But I DO know that 100 goes into 7,330 73 times. So at a rate of $100.00 per hour, that stipend SHOULD be paying for 73 hours of work.

That's 73 hours outside of the school day, spent on JUST THE PIT.

Are we really getting value for our money, or is ADMINISTRATION extravagantly overpaying certain people??

Anonymous said...

Yes

Anonymous said...

Yes, administration is definitely overpaying certain favorite people.

And about kids eating lunch at 9:30 a.m.--I remember getting up at 5:45 a.m. when I was in high school, eating breakfast at 6:00 a.m., and getting on a city bus at 6:30 in order to be at school by 7:15 a.m. I was definitely hungry by 9:30, and appreciated having an early (10:15 or so) lunch hour. What seems like "too early" for some people may be "just right" for others.

Anonymous said...

Or they are paying exactly what other people got paid.

Anonymous said...

Only if $3,493.00 is the same as $7,330.00.

Maybe it is in "ADMINISTRATION MATH".

Anonymous said...

That's NOT what he got paid, that is WAY to low. He was getting at least $5,500 for doing the pit.

Anonymous said...

POINTLESS - YOU ARE ALL TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND HOW TEACHERS CONTRACTS WORK.

All of the stipends just got an increase last year when the salary schedule was re-negotiated.

Do you get it? So no it could not be the same amount because EVERY stipend just got an increase.

Anonymous said...

Someone needs to seek medical attention.

Anonymous said...

Really? Ok thanks for that tidbit of wisdom. What a idiot

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Anonymous said...

8:42 p.m., here's what October 27, 4:27 p.m. found out when they FOIA'd the stipends from 2004-2005:

...the band director was paid $174.65 in 20 installments in 2004-2005 for "HS MUS ORCHESTRA PIT DIR". It is public information, available to anyone...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Of course, you don't have to believe it. It would be typical of your "team" to deny & distract as usual, without bothering to provide any specific information of your own.

Anything to desperately try to defend administration's favoritism--no wonder so many are cynical about central office's ability to spend money in our kids' best interests instead of making choices for arrogance!

:(

Anonymous said...

You are soooo stupid.

Good job. You win. Kevin Kaisershot is sooooo poor making only $80,000 a year, oh poor poor baby.

Liska is the favorite, they do anything for him. He has a gold plated desk, given handfulls of cash for no reason and he does half the work of any other teacher.

Every day he is carried to work by Dr. Roberts and Mrs. Conrad and fed grapes while he is fanned by the office secretaries.

Anonymous said...

I'm done, you can't fix stupid.

Anonymous said...

Rayanne - if you had any tact or class you would remove this blog.

I hope you die a slow and painful death.

Anonymous said...

Liska is the favorite, they do anything for him.... given cash for no reason and he does half the work of any other teacher....Every day he is carried... You padded the facts a bit, but summed it up pretty well.

Anonymous said...

When it was brought up about a new topic, the poster said "Whatever it starts out as, it always goes back to the same thing."

Yes, the band issue will never be a dead issue. Especially, as long as bloggers can stir up such intense comments from "someone" who seems to take it all personally and resorts to name calling to the point of wishing someone dead. Hmmmmm...who could that one person or maybe one mrs.person be that always gets so hostile about the band discussions?

Anonymous said...

If Kaisershot were a favorite son like Liska (with the number of years he has put in) he would be making over $100,000 a year.

Anonymous said...

The Football coach did resign before the last game clayton is keeping it under wraps. He is so not wroth a story the Beacon did not get around to it you will see

Anonymous said...

so apparently there's an openly gay teacher at East High...thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Hasn't their been openly gay students at the High School for years and they have a club so why would it bother anyone about a teacher? I believe though we all have a right to like it or not but this is nothing new in or society today.

A lot of the posting about news from Central Office and other stuff like the secretary for Clayton (which I believe was mentioned at a board meeting some time ago) is being put on by one of the board members or a friend of theirs because they don't like this blog.

Anonymous said...

@October 29, 2011 7:23 AM
Are you searching for homophobes or considering coming out?

Who cares?! Like another said, GSA (Gay Straight Alliance) has been in existence for years @ EAHS. Have you been under a rock?

To each his own.

Anonymous said...

Nice article about one of our newest student board members in the Beacon this week. Michele Sansone-Gall writes some excellent articles about East Aurora. Kudos.

And the article about the Retirees was nice as well.

Anonymous said...

Very nice article last week on student board member. Small error. She said this new student member was the first female. I believe this info is incorrect, there has been one or 2 others prior.

Anonymous said...

Central office turned on each other with the wicked witch of the west in the middle. Marin has injured careers like K's all her life now she got hers

Anonymous said...

No it was not put on this blog about Clayton by a board member or a friend of a board member. Just showing how monies is spent foolishly. Claytons PR job has branched out in many directions and what other districit has this? All the monies spent for things like this should be spent on the students. Maybe even to get the pool fixed or many other things that needs to be done.

Anonymous said...

A.J. ;lease take you meds.

Anonymous said...

okay every is complaining about the band program...but with so much being needed in other areas how do explain the fact that the board approved and paid for the ROTC to go to Daytona Florida last, with it in the works again this year. The also spent 20,000 for computers for the ROTC dept. All of this info comes directly from the commander

Unknown said...

We are not child care. We are lea or administrators who run iep meetings. We did not get paid admin salaries so they added a stipend to our salaries for our duties. We get paid half if most administration.

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